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Post by davejohansen on Dec 24, 2006 17:04:07 GMT -5
Anybody done a front brake conversion to disc brakes on their bus? If so who's kit did you use. I can't seem to find anybody that lists kit for 64 T2.
Dave
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Post by kintail on Dec 26, 2006 12:58:17 GMT -5
Some day I am hoping to have the $$ to get a CSP front disc brake kit for the '67.... retains the stock wheels and clearances plus TUV approved. A friend of mine in Colorado has gone with Porsche 944 disc set-up for his '66.... however it requires converting to different wheel set-up. If that's what you are going to do anyway will be somewhat cheaper. Search on the Samba for CSP and disc brake..... should get lots of info there. Cheers Scott
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Post by riffraff on Dec 27, 2006 11:06:39 GMT -5
I have always been a little confused by the desire to do disc brake conversion on buses. I understand that discs are a superior braking system for light vehicles, but I just can't reconcile the cost/benefit ratio in my own mind. All the buses that I have owned have had the original drum brakes on them. I have judiciously replaced any components that were worn or leaking and I find a stock, well maintained braking system in a bus to be quite remarkable! I think it is a good idea to upgrade to 64-67 brake components and install a dual circuit master cylinder, but that is pretty economical and painless. I used to load up my 65 pretty good to haul sundry items up to the lake and never once felt that the stock braking system was inadequate in any way. Personally, I can always find something else to upgrade on my buses that gives me superior cost/benefit results(IMHO). I have nothing against disc brake conversions, and if I had a bus that was converted to discs I certainly would not be converting it back to drums, but I have just found stock braking systems are able to fulfil my braking needs.
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Post by kintail on Dec 27, 2006 22:48:05 GMT -5
Had the completely stock brake system rebuilt on the '67 Westy and it does the job with a lot of leg effort on a panic stop. (Since removed childs cot as it can make nifty projectile - nobody hurt just chipped paint on back of passenger seat... But now with the mild stock 1600 DP connected to the new freeway flyer .... and more cruising speed than stock, I would prefer discs for more safety. My buddy with his '66 Westfalia is now hauling an original Westfalia trailer and needs the extra stopping power with this unit. Stock brakes and stock drivetrain = OK...... anything beyond that the braking probably needs an upgrade consideration IMO. Scott
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Post by riffraff on Dec 28, 2006 11:35:31 GMT -5
The weight of a laden Westie is something that I have never had to contend with! I don't think I have ever had my bus as heavy as a Westie heading out for an adventure can be. Driver, mama, a couple kids, the dog, clothes, food, full fuel tank, full water tank and the Westie interior makes for the full 3/4 ton+ of allowable capacity for sure. I can under stand the need for discs in that scenario and could certainly justify the cost/benefit of it.!!
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Post by davejohansen on Dec 30, 2006 10:36:29 GMT -5
Safety is my biggest concern. As I will be putting in a larger than stock engine (haven't decided between 1600 to 1834 in size yet) I do want some stopping power. Especially since I'm the hood ornament.
Dave
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Post by riffraff on Dec 30, 2006 20:12:59 GMT -5
Safety is my biggest concern. As I will be putting in a larger than stock engine (haven't decided between 1600 to 1834 in size yet) I do want some stopping power. Especially since I'm the hood ornament. Dave Dave As far as a power plant goes, an 1835 (69mm stroke X 94mm P&C's) is probably not the best choice for a bus. Going with the bigger bore will give you more power, but with the extra weight of a bus, what you really want is more torque. In order to coax more torque out of an A/C engine, the best thing to do is to stroke it. A 76 mm stroke with 90.5 P&C's will give you 1956cc, a mild cam and dual carbs and you have a significant increase in torque (and HP for that matter). Boring works fine for Beetles, but buses really should be stroked. My 2 cents
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Post by kintail on Jan 18, 2007 23:59:16 GMT -5
On the motor issue I agree with riffraff..... go with a stroker........ I was thinking 2007 cc based on the info I saw and would be my next step beyond what I have now. Torque increase nothing but good for moving these old buses around.... OR GO "NUTS" ........and spend the big $$ to get a T4 conversion and matched tranny from Jake Raby!! 4 wheel discs for sure!!! Scott
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Post by bullyboy on Jan 19, 2007 13:32:49 GMT -5
Vdub Engineering in Toronto does Brake conversions for all sorts of patterns. If you're looking for different wheels/brake combinations. I have the NA944 stuff on my beetle because I bought it for my former bus project. Later Mark
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Post by spice on Jan 19, 2007 16:54:31 GMT -5
in the boxes of stuff I bought I seen a box of tabs that are to be welded to the spindle so you can attach the caliper for DIY conversions if anyone is interested 10$ pair I can show pics if needed cheers SPICE
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